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Divorce BAH / Child Custody vs barracks HELP

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Anna 1
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Are we done yet 2
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lauraswindle --- 5 years ago -

My husband and i are at the end of our divorce and i have a question since i need and want him to be able to have visitation with our boys for summer, spring break, fall/Christmas break etc.

I live in Wyoming while he is there in Ft Riley. How many weeks does my divorce papers need to show in order for him to get a house rather than be put in the barracks? (since he obviously isn't allowed to keep them in the barracks during his turn)

Right now it shows roughly 12 weeks 

Are we done yet --- 5 years ago -

i have always been told he has to have over 50% custody to be able to get onpost housing. But I have always been told even if he doesnt have the % of custody needed to live on post housing they wont let him live in the barrics when he has children because he has to have a place for them to go for visitation and like you said he cant have them in tthe barrics. 

militarybrat --- 5 years ago -

He will not be able to get on post housing since they have to live with him for more than 6 months out of a year. depending on his rank he will have to get a place off post. but if he is not an NCO then yes they will tell him to stay in the barracks unless he gets an authorization from his cdr to live off post 

lauraswindle --- 5 years ago -

We gave up the house on post 6 months ago. He's been homeless for 10 months now since they won't give him a room since he's not completely divorced. He said he thinks he needs 49% custody in order to keep the $ & get an apt. My divorce attorney is trying to convince us that 10-12 weeks is enough for him to keep the housing but if i give over the papers & its not then we all get screwed. He's a Spc for 5 years. If they won't let him keep the bah and live off post then that's sad - I feel bad for all the dads & kids. Thanks though. :( 

Garbage Vulture --- 5 years ago -

he gets BAH BECAUSE he has children. But because he gets BAH he may not be able to get barracks room. The amount of custody or visitation has zero bearing on if he gets BAH or not. He has dependants, he gets BAH. If he is not the custodial(or residential) parent he will NOT get on post housing. 

flgirl --- 5 years ago -

he will not be able to get on post housing since they have to live with him for more than 6 months out of a year

This isnt true, i know several single fathers that live on post housing and do not have their kids even close to 6 months out of the year. In fact our neighbor has 2 kids and we have been here 3 years and his kids visit 2 weeks every summer. The rest of the time he is living alone in a 3 bedroom house. 

Garbage Vulture --- 5 years ago -

Then you know several single fathers who are frauding the Govenment. 

DollLikeDeceptions --- 5 years ago -

Why doesn't he just go to JAG and find out what he has to do? Seems like the smartest thing to do in this situation 

militarybrat --- 5 years ago -

He does not get BAH because he pays child support. He is an E4 living in the Barracks and has to pay child support so he will get BAH Diff and is usually half of the BAH that goes to child support. And yes since he is not fully divorced he can not techinally stay in the barracks but the CDR can authorize it. Only reason I know is because this is my job in the military since I am military.
Also Flgirl- they are in the wrong for that and are not allowed to do that. if they get caught they can get in trouble because they just lied to the government 

Anna --- 5 years ago -

Well the fathers are not frauding the government-flgirl is right. The rules changed about 1 year ago.My husband had to find it out the hard way due 1 of his married soldier is living on post by himself (wife and children in Maryland) and got in trouble (will not say for what) and it was domended because of the accusations against him that he has to move out by some E7 who thought she can take the law in her own hand and so come to find out that has changed. As long he is getting BAH - it does not matter where the family lives as long Piecerne is getting their cut. That means the wife is either living with family or paying her own rent.Oh yeah Piecerne is making money for sure. We were sooo surprised to find that out. 

militarybrat --- 5 years ago -

Anna- Is this going by the reg. because it doesnt matter what housing says. with the military unless you have custody more than 50% out the year then you do not qualify for housing. yes there are always ways around things but if you get caught... 

Tee C --- 5 years ago -

I personally believe that is one of the biggest reasons why it was a bad idea for the Army to privatize housing. Let's face it--Picerne has to make money, and they don't care how they do it. So if a soldier tells a boldfaced lie (or omits certain information if he isn't specifically asked about it) then they aren't going to give one fig about it as long as they are getting paid. When the Army was in charge there was far more visibility between the unit and housing. When I first got married, my husband got orders to Fort Lewis and I was left behind; when I moved into quarters on Fort Lee, the housing office called AND wrote my unit to make sure that my memos and paperwork was correct before they'd issue me housing. It was a pain in the butt, but it kept the dishonest people from living in housing who weren't supposed to be there. 

lauraswindle --- 5 years ago -

thanks for all the help. i decided that after 11 years together i can't go through with the divorce and shredded the papers and told my lawyer i don't want the divorce anymore. :) 

Are we done yet --- 5 years ago -

I hope everything works out for you good luck. 

Tee C --- 5 years ago -

thanks for all the help. i decided that after 11 years together i can't go through with the divorce and shredded the papers and told my lawyer i don't want the divorce anymore. :)

Amen, lauraswindle. God bless you for sticking it out, and don't let other people discourage you from your decision. Hang in there and I will be praying for you and your family :D! 

Silverkitten (Mod) --- 5 years ago -

Lauraswindle Good luck and God Bless you and your family. I know it can be hard to heal from all the pain that both have caused but if you ask God to walk with you in this nothing is impossible. Like TC said don't listen to other people who will tell you it's not worth it. You are doing what is best for your kids and your family. 

DollLikeDeceptions --- 5 years ago -

:) I'll keep my cynical thoughts that she figured out posting this would get her and her soon to be ex in trouble and decided saying "I've seen the light" was the best way to get the heat off since she basically alerted all of Fort Riley that she was planning on defrauding the government and was actually asking for advice on the best way to do it!

Again, I'll keep that thought to myself ;) 

lauraswindle --- 5 years ago -

Really? You just be a drama queen. U have no idea what I was asking to begin with apparently. How is needing to know the amount of weeks my divorce papers need to say in order to make sure he's able to get an apt off post to have his kids for his time defrauding anyone? I went ahead and had the last stuff redone and its being finalized this week. If you couldn't answer "x amount of weeks" then why r u trying to start crap? He doesn't want a house on post if that's what ur worried about. I wouldn't have our names on here if it wasn't a legit answer. If u want to call the court house be my guest. So next time keep ur thoughts to urself. Its pathetic that for 5 years i've watched ppl like u try to stir up drama out of a simple question. At this point Idc where he lives with whatever girl he chooses to live with. Conversation is over since he'll have to make due with 12 weeks a year. 

toriT --- 5 years ago -

Well that escalated quickly. 

DollLikeDeceptions --- 5 years ago -

I just be a drama queen, huh? LMAO ok! First of all if you wanted to know the answer to a simple question like that then you easily could have googled it OR made an appointment with JAG OR retain an attorney that is paid to figure those things out. And as far as pathetic drama goes, get a clue. If you can't handle that fact that every single member of this forum might not side with poor little you going through a divorce then don't post on here. I didn't escalate or start drama, I believe this thread has been up for 6 days now and almost everyone, along with one of the MOD's, stated that it was fraud. Don't scream drama queen if you do not know how to appropriately word your questions because I was not the only one that assumed you were talking about him getting housing.
I'm sorry that you can't handle people's opinions. Either that or I hit the nail right on the head and guilty people lash out when they feel like they've been figured out. :) 

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