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so does anyone know if sunflower fence is legit?

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Hope (Mod) --- 7 years ago -

I just dont see whats so hard for them to say " hey sunflower, your not allowed on post


piercne is the one who is passing the buck to jag on this ..they are the ones who deal with the fence companies and they should have stepped up on day one and put out info and be answering questions now but they are directing to everyone else and they are the ones who can or cant allow sunflower to put up fences. 

FreeLittleFootFanClub --- 7 years ago -

If we cant get a petition startedwht if we did something like a facebook page? Thats the new "thing" to do to petition some place. Wouldnt it work the same way and just make it so that people can just "like" the page then under the discussion section just post something to the fact that we the undersigned are petitioning to get Bella/Sunflower fence banned from post for screwing over so many people ( ok not those exact words but ya get what Im meaning..lol). Then pass the link around and just get people to sign underneath it? 

Proud Cav. Wife --- 7 years ago -

At this point, banning them isn't going to do much as far as them trying to collect their "past payments" and come take the fences. All it will do is ban future business. As far as I know they don't even offer services to new clients, they are just harassing us with fences. I called and pretended to be a new costumer, they said they "Couldn't begin new fencing contracts at this time....." Hmmmmm makes it seem more of a scam to me!

I don't care so much about them getting banned right now, as much as I want them to figure this mess out! Hopefully Erin's letter helps solidify through JAG that this is OUR property. 

Riplady --- 7 years ago -

Proud Cav. Wife: I find this funny, I had a friend of mine call with the measurments of my yard and ask for a quote. She said that she couldnt give one but someone would call her back and give her a quote. THEY DID and the quote she got was 15-20$ more then what we are paying right now... and she never said anything about not accepting new contracts at this time.

Wow she cant even keep her story strait!!! I am going with One accord... Im done playing games. 

Proud Cav. Wife --- 7 years ago -

Oh I would have never gotten a fence through them, EVER AGAIN but My Dad was talking to one of the detectives he works with who deals allot with scams and he told my Dad to have me do that. He said if they were a legit company they'd be happy to put up a fence. He said if it were this Bella company just trying to exist under the table then they would only be after us that already had fences because they'd have no materials (Being that they were seized by the IRS).

I still firmly believe that "Sunflower" is "Bella" acting illegally. How convenient that their bills/invoices look identical. How funny that sunflower buys Bella literally right before the IRS seized them. Ironic that JAG got that letter from Bella so quickly stating that the company was sold. Strange that they aren't able to take new fence rentals. Weird that their business and there isn't a store location and their business is done by cell phone/ PO box. If I bought a business I sure would have a location at least, Were do they keep materials? I find not being able to pay with anything other than a check, money order or cash a bit off too. It doesn't sit right with us, and I will not be paying them anything. 

laura --- 7 years ago -

I had called an attorney earlier this week asking how do I go about starting a petition. The lady said he would call me back!! As of right now I have not received a phone call back from him!! Go figure! Hell maybe they don't even want to get in to it! Also I called housing yesterday and they said that Sunflower isn't appoved to be on post as of yet!The higher ppl in housing have to decide! Maybe we dhould go up there with pickets and yell "HELL NO SUNFLOWER BLOWS"!!!! 

vickie --- 7 years ago -

I was told by the lady "Kathy" who answers the phone number for Sunflower that they will be back at the Bella building on or around the first of the month and will be able to accept credit/debit payments again. Kinda fishy to me that she answered the phone hello instead of Sunflower fence. I still dont understand how we as the customers keep getting so many different stories. I am just fed up with this nonsense! My neighbor and I will be going in and having them come remove the fences and go through one accord for our fences. 

Proud Cav. Wife --- 7 years ago -

Will that is convenient now isn't it. Back in the Bella building. 

daisypetals2000 --- 7 years ago -

anyone know what the penalty is for having the fence removed? i can't find my original contract. :( 

~*Kandice*~ --- 7 years ago -

Whats funny is i havent payed them in like 2 months and when i got my last bill it said i only owed 1 month. When i knew i should owe more since i have stopped payments so they arent even keeping up with that it seems. I just want everyone to get together and get it straight. Its confusing and just pi$$ing me off more the longer it goes on! 

daisypetals2000 --- 7 years ago -

Will that is convenient now isn't it. Back in the Bella building.


i am not sure if i would believe that story either. Wouldn't KDOR be auctioning that property? how the hell can you auction property for taxes and then the person with the levies against them purchase the property? I seriously doubt and financial institution is lending them money - their (likely sole) source of income has been eliminated. I think is another lie on behalf of sunflower... i am telling you, i think i am going to put an ice complaint in. I don't mind creating a paper petition and heading a group of ppl collecting signatures. i have no issues going to IG to throw a fit. Is anyone interested in this? To make it work, we would need ppl in all neighborhoods willing to go door to door collecting signatures.... I live in forsyth and could take the side near the gate ---- if there are enough of us maybe they will hold a Q&A townhall meeting or something where we can pin them all down at once and get some answers. 

FreeLittleFootFanClub --- 7 years ago -

I am interested in it. Or doing the online FB one. Either way heck yeah Id do it. Jag is suppose to be protecting the soldiers and there families and IMO arnt doing a very good job of this. Plus its been over a month so there is no reason they shouldnt have answers by now.

P.S. I like the IG idea too. :D 

TexasMama020507 --- 7 years ago -

This whole thing really confuses me. IDK what to do. We have a fence and my husband is being medically retired so sooner then later Im going to need it removed. I had the new Sunflower contract sent to me and I have not paid them either. I wish I could get a straight answer. 

daisypetals2000 --- 7 years ago -

good... so that is two for forsyth... anyone else? you guys off post that have bella could collect signatures as well... i seriously doubt anyone with common sense would not sign a petition. the only reason is say paperones overit is simply because it is easier to throw documented (paper) at them since we all know how online operations are not as trustworthy. KWIM? Alot of the folks in the higher positions are more traditioanl in many ways. jmo, of course... we could do both.... 

TexasMama020507 --- 7 years ago -

Im in Forsyth and I will sign. 

FreeLittleFootFanClub --- 7 years ago -

Either way works for me. Whatever way will get them to quit being able to scam people is fine with me. I do think that a trip to IG just might be what it takes to get a straight answer from Jag. There advice changes day to day and when people who do take there advice are ending up with huge bills. It needs to stop like now. Plus once again with three government agencies working on it there is no reason that this shouldn't have been figured out a long time ago. There not even asking for a bill of sale or a letter from the lawyer. They only asked for a letter from Dave Jones and everyone agrees that there not going to take his word on it. The letter doesn't look legit at all. Its easy to write a letter stating that you own a business. Its harder to prove it and they should be making them prove it! IMO 

Mandi --- 7 years ago -

I got a bill from Sunflower about a week and a half ago, and got another one today with the next month's charges added in and a sticky note saying if it's not brought current that our fence is subject to immediate removal. We've only not paid the bill since all this crud started. 

vickie --- 7 years ago -

My husband called and told Kathy that we want our fence removed. She set up a removal day of the 8th. I wash my hands with this entire ordeal. I will go through one accord who is a legit company!! 

daisypetals2000 --- 7 years ago -

vickie... how much are they charging you for having them take it out? 

vickie --- 7 years ago -

This is actually kind of pathetic. They are not charging me anything to remove mine, however they are charging my neighbor almost $60 to remove her fence! 

daisypetals2000 --- 7 years ago -

hmmm.... so do they bill you for fence removal? I just want some kind of proof that they removed my fence. LOL. 

Riplady --- 7 years ago -

Im seriously irritated that they are charging me almost 60 to remove my fence!! but im done with this crap!!!! Come get your damn fence and then stay off my property!!! 

BadLuckMommy --- 7 years ago -

Why are they charging to remove your fence? Thats crap, if you didnt sign the new contract they have to come remove your fence. I can tell you right now, they aren't getting my fence. and I am not paying! My sister is home ALL day and when I am not I am only a phone call away. I will have her call the MP's and I will speed to my house. I can tell you one thing I will let my dogs out and bring everything I have out side. I have a lock on my fance, which means if they take it they stole from e, and I will press charges!!! 

BadLuckMommy --- 7 years ago -

I WILL SIGN!!!! 

BadLuckMommy --- 7 years ago -

Another thing is, has anyone used the open door policy for the general? 

Mandi --- 7 years ago -

I spoke to a gentleman today who stated that Bella/Sunflower is not allowed to take any fences off post unless they have permission from the resident to do so. He asked me if I knew of anyone that had their fence taken, he is going to do some checking on this, speak with Erin and Legal and try to get this straightened out. He did say however, they're not allowed to just come take your fence and if they are indeed doing this at night, he would do whatever he could to put an end to it. 

daisypetals2000 --- 7 years ago -

I spoke to a gentleman today who stated that Bella/Sunflower is not allowed to take any fences off post unless they have permission from the resident to do so. He asked me if I knew of anyone that had their fence taken, he is going to do some checking on this, speak with Erin and Legal and try to get this straightened out. He did say however, they're not allowed to just come take your fence and if they are indeed doing this at night, he would do whatever he could to put an end to it.


who is this guy? a lawyer? i also got a statement today with a sticker for immediate removal if i don't pay. 

~*Kandice*~ --- 7 years ago -

I got my letter today saying that we owe 78 dollars. And that its up for immediate removal if we dont pay. And they are taking credit cards and they are back in the old bella building (didnt the IRS seize that building...isnt that part of it??) I say f'em let them take my fence but they are not getting my money...i'm not going to pay them and let them just screw me over. A$$hats is what they are! 

Mandi --- 7 years ago -

DP- Gosh I wish he was a lawyer but it's not. I had asked the maintenance man for piercene if we could just put up our own fence, he went and spoke to one of the main people for Picerne and had me call the guy. I explained to him why I wanted to put up our own fencing materials and he said he knew what was going on with Bella/Sunflower, but they had no idea that Bella Sunflower was taking people's fences without permission. I told him I had read where a couple people had their fences taken in the middle of the night and he stated if they were coming on post and taking them then something needed to be done about it. He requested Erin's number and where I read the information so he could do his own investigation and said he would call me back when he figures out what to do but if they do come take your fence without permission to let them know. He said that they shouldn't be doing this especially in the middle of the night if it did indeed happen. I got a letter as well today threatening to take my fence so I figured we could just put our own up if they do take it but it has to be exactly like it is right now and if we hit a fiber optic line when putting the new one in he said it runs into hundred of thousands of dollars, maybe we will just rent from another company. 

laura --- 7 years ago -

Well I just called to talk to Erin and this Shane guy told me that if we had any issues with Sunflower/Bella that we will have to get a Lawyer!!!! He was really rude about it too!!! Well p$ss on them too. 

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